Comments on: The Firebug Problem http://ready-up.net/2009/02/06/the-firebug-problem/ We Play Games Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:59:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Darach http://ready-up.net/2009/02/06/the-firebug-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-4998 Darach Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:37:48 +0000 http://ready-up.net/?p=2542#comment-4998 I saved the world and have three successful marriages. They didn't even blink when I refused to pay the bribe, and some guy touted telling my wives I was a bigamist. Just loved me as completely as always. :) I think I worry less about bugs than I do about polishing. In a game like Fable 2, sure there's bugs, but the game's wonderful and has had all sorts of attention lavished on it. Whereas with TR:Underworld, I get the feeling that another couple of months development time would have improved the game no end. But then it would have missed the Xmas window. :/ I saved the world and have three successful marriages.
They didn’t even blink when I refused to pay the bribe, and some guy touted telling my wives I was a bigamist. Just loved me as completely as always. :)

I think I worry less about bugs than I do about polishing. In a game like Fable 2, sure there’s bugs, but the game’s wonderful and has had all sorts of attention lavished on it.
Whereas with TR:Underworld, I get the feeling that another couple of months development time would have improved the game no end. But then it would have missed the Xmas window. :/

]]> By: Michael http://ready-up.net/2009/02/06/the-firebug-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-4896 Michael Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:08:14 +0000 http://ready-up.net/?p=2542#comment-4896 Yes, Fable 2 was buggy, I lost my wife for a bit and then she just re-appeared one day; I'd been offline the whole time I played the game. And then... THEN she divorced me! What a cow! There's a lesson to be learned there - you can't save the world and have a successful marriage. It seems to be the norm - for Microsoft/Xbox 360, at least - to rush things from the console to the games themselves. Maybe. Yeah, Fran, I didn't want to paint myself into a corner with QA so I chose my words rather carefully! ;-) Not to worry Baz, you can be deleted! *evil laugh* Not that I would do that, you understand... Yes, Fable 2 was buggy, I lost my wife for a bit and then she just re-appeared one day; I’d been offline the whole time I played the game. And then… THEN she divorced me! What a cow! There’s a lesson to be learned there – you can’t save the world and have a successful marriage.

It seems to be the norm – for Microsoft/Xbox 360, at least – to rush things from the console to the games themselves. Maybe.

Yeah, Fran, I didn’t want to paint myself into a corner with QA so I chose my words rather carefully! ;-)

Not to worry Baz, you can be deleted! *evil laugh* Not that I would do that, you understand…

]]> By: GamerGeekGirl http://ready-up.net/2009/02/06/the-firebug-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-4891 GamerGeekGirl Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:58:15 +0000 http://ready-up.net/?p=2542#comment-4891 The thing I hate the most? People bitching about DRM, CON-STANT-LY... Yes, it sucks. Yes, it would be better without it (or with a DRM system like Steam which is positive to the consumer) No, it does not need to be "discussed" the amount you wish to discuss it... Grrr!! As far as glitches go, I'd say the worst is when people buy a game that is quite clearly designed to be played on a console, and buy the PC port; then moan that the controls arent very good... Well, duh, it was designed to be played on a console; of course they're not. (This is definitely the minority of games; most are perfectly portable to PC - especially FPSes, but some, like Lego games - why would you want to play it on a PC??) The thing I hate the most?

People bitching about DRM, CON-STANT-LY…

Yes, it sucks. Yes, it would be better without it (or with a DRM system like Steam which is positive to the consumer) No, it does not need to be “discussed” the amount you wish to discuss it…

Grrr!! As far as glitches go, I’d say the worst is when people buy a game that is quite clearly designed to be played on a console, and buy the PC port; then moan that the controls arent very good…

Well, duh, it was designed to be played on a console; of course they’re not.

(This is definitely the minority of games; most are perfectly portable to PC – especially FPSes, but some, like Lego games – why would you want to play it on a PC??)

]]> By: Barry http://ready-up.net/2009/02/06/the-firebug-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-4889 Barry Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:32:24 +0000 http://ready-up.net/?p=2542#comment-4889 damn this computer to hell, wrong blog... lol anyway... Gears 2 was full of glitches, but they have patched most of them. -Horde mode, the locust warping from one end of the map to another. -Sheild glitch (has now been fixed in the last patch) As for Tomb Raider, Ive not seen any glitches at all, the camera is all over the place sometimes but isnt that just bad design and execution. damn this computer to hell, wrong blog… lol

anyway…

Gears 2 was full of glitches, but they have patched most of them.
-Horde mode, the locust warping from one end of the map to another.
-Sheild glitch (has now been fixed in the last patch)

As for Tomb Raider, Ive not seen any glitches at all, the camera is all over the place sometimes but isnt that just bad design and execution.

]]> By: Barry http://ready-up.net/2009/02/06/the-firebug-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-4887 Barry Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:21:59 +0000 http://ready-up.net/?p=2542#comment-4887 Imagine the horror I went through after finally buying a 360 last September, only to for it to give me RROD after a week. I did end up getting a brand new elite model for the same price... but thats not the point! It was brand new and years after release meaning they should have ironed out all the infamous manufactoring issues I still managed to handpick a faulty 360!! Bad luck or Bill Gates redemption? Imagine the horror I went through after finally buying a 360 last September, only to for it to give me RROD after a week. I did end up getting a brand new elite model for the same price… but thats not the point!

It was brand new and years after release meaning they should have ironed out all the infamous manufactoring issues I still managed to handpick a faulty 360!! Bad luck or Bill Gates redemption?

]]> By: Lordstar http://ready-up.net/2009/02/06/the-firebug-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-4877 Lordstar Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:36:18 +0000 http://ready-up.net/?p=2542#comment-4877 Lordstar here (this seems to make me anon on this pc) Publishersjust push them out the door. sell now fix in the patch online world we live in. Sucks to be dial up i guess :-p I recall reading an interview with the old school nintendo PR guys about mario 3 in the UK/EU they pushed back the date which they said was so they could meet the demands of the market and there would likley be shortages even with the up'd stock. Years later turns out it was all a publicity scheme to whip buyers in to a frenzy. Sales for mario 3 were real fucking good too.They sat on the carts for a few months too. That was back in the day when games cost fuck all and sold for insane ammounts. If i ever pay 70 quid+ for a game shoot me now just a thought Lordstar here (this seems to make me anon on this pc) Publishersjust push them out the door. sell now fix in the patch online world we live in. Sucks to be dial up i guess :-p

I recall reading an interview with the old school nintendo PR guys about mario 3 in the UK/EU they pushed back the date which they said was so they could meet the demands of the market and there would likley be shortages even with the up’d stock. Years later turns out it was all a publicity scheme to whip buyers in to a frenzy. Sales for mario 3 were real fucking good too.They sat on the carts for a few months too. That was back in the day when games cost fuck all and sold for insane ammounts. If i ever pay 70 quid+ for a game shoot me now

just a thought

]]> By: Fran http://ready-up.net/2009/02/06/the-firebug-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-4873 Fran Fri, 06 Feb 2009 11:06:43 +0000 http://ready-up.net/?p=2542#comment-4873 I think for me, it was the Camera on a level actually. If I remember rightly it was when i was trying to escape the rising water on one of the levels. I forget which. But because I couldn't turn the camera to see behind me, and its constant flickering back and forth, all when I was trying to swing on the grapple-ma-thingy, It took me hours and endless swearing to just jump across a gap. And that was on 360. ...Or maybe I'm just shite :( I think for me, it was the Camera on a level actually. If I remember rightly it was when i was trying to escape the rising water on one of the levels. I forget which.
But because I couldn’t turn the camera to see behind me, and its constant flickering back and forth, all when I was trying to swing on the grapple-ma-thingy, It took me hours and endless swearing to just jump across a gap. And that was on 360.
…Or maybe I’m just shite :(

]]> By: City http://ready-up.net/2009/02/06/the-firebug-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-4871 City Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:36:03 +0000 http://ready-up.net/?p=2542#comment-4871 Its mostly down to bad clipping etc Camera glitches on ledges or around walls, tripping over invisible rocks (this was espcially frustrating during the mayan calender thing on the motorbike). This is all on the PS3 version, I havent played it since just before xmas, I will probably pick it up again after its patched to include trophies. Its mostly down to bad clipping etc
Camera glitches on ledges or around walls, tripping over invisible rocks (this was espcially frustrating during the mayan calender thing on the motorbike). This is all on the PS3 version, I havent played it since just before xmas, I will probably pick it up again after its patched to include trophies.

]]> By: Lorna http://ready-up.net/2009/02/06/the-firebug-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-4870 Lorna Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:24:32 +0000 http://ready-up.net/?p=2542#comment-4870 I have also had no TR bugs thus far, however, Fable 2 can be a little finicky about getting you stuck in scenery and other half had a good rant about spending half an hour getting stuck in a table in Fallout 3 recently. I think Michael's right though, us clamouring consumers pile pressure on the devs and co to rush these things, though it isn't all us. The influx of the casual gamer and the fleeting cash cow that they represent has no dobt led to rushed releases and slipped standards before this well of plenty dries up and the Wii generation either sticks and evolves to Xbox/Ps3 or else moves on... I have also had no TR bugs thus far, however, Fable 2 can be a little finicky about getting you stuck in scenery and other half had a good rant about spending half an hour getting stuck in a table in Fallout 3 recently.

I think Michael’s right though, us clamouring consumers pile pressure on the devs and co to rush these things, though it isn’t all us. The influx of the casual gamer and the fleeting cash cow that they represent has no dobt led to rushed releases and slipped standards before this well of plenty dries up and the Wii generation either sticks and evolves to Xbox/Ps3 or else moves on…

]]> By: Tony http://ready-up.net/2009/02/06/the-firebug-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-4868 Tony Fri, 06 Feb 2009 10:15:11 +0000 http://ready-up.net/?p=2542#comment-4868 Maybe I was playing the wrong game, but I completed Tomb Raider Underworld and don't recall seeing a single bug or glitch? What bugs are we talking about? Maybe I was playing the wrong game, but I completed Tomb Raider Underworld and don’t recall seeing a single bug or glitch?

What bugs are we talking about?

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